Saw Kill Watershed Community Celebration!

We started off our meeting with Lindsey Drew, manager of Bard Water Lab, providing a update on the Saw Kill’s water quality. Lindsey explained that the Bard Water Lab tests four main water quality parameters which are: temperature, conductivity, turbidity and sewage indicating bacteria. It’s important to measure temperature because it affects aquatic and plant life. On average, the temperature of 2018 is higher than 2017, and the Saw Kill is warming. Fortunately, there are some measures we can take to counteract this warming such as maintaining buffers and reducing stagnant waters. The next parameter revealed is conductivity, which is vital to measure because it is an indicator for salinity, which is affected by road salt. From 2016 to 2018, conductivity levels have decreased. The next parameter described is turbidity, the amount of particles in water. Overall, turbidity levels in 2018 are higher than 2016 and 2017. Lastly, she discussed about Enterococci and E. coli, which are significant indicators of water contamination. The 2018 levels of Enterococci concentration and E. coli is lower than 2017. To read more about the presentation, click here.

After this quick update, we spent our last community meeting of the year by mingling with our fellow community members and celebrating with wine and cheese! It was a great time for everybody, and there were lots of laughter and bonding. Hope everyone has a Happy Holidays and will see you all next year!


If you’re interested in joining the monthly samplings, please get in touch with Lindsey Drew at Don’t forget to get on our emailing list for reminders of our monthly community meetings by getting in touch with Dxina Mannello at


November’s Community Meeting: Updates on the Saw Kill and Community Discussion

November’s community meeting began with a report from Elisa Chae, former staff for the NYS Department of Environmental Conservation. Her presentation was a draft evaluating Saw Kill’s source water (drinking water). The final report is aimed to be completed by December 13. Elisa explained that the analysis of the Saw Kill involved reviewing several information such as the Saw Kill Watershed Flood Mitigation Assessment, and the Riverkeeper Source Water Protection Score Card. It also involved the usage of a lot of GIS Data such as the Saw Kill Watershed Boundary, Public Water Systems, Water Protections and Land protections. The goals of the report are to determine environmental disparities and identify regions with potentially shared interests.

Elisa's presentation

Next, Karen Schenner-McDonald reviewed the SKWC Draft Drinking Water Protection Recommendation Outline, which provided recommendations to the Town of Red Hook. The first recommendation is to establish and maintain 100 feet buffers along all outskirts of the watershed’s body to better protect the watershed. The second recommendation is to keep contaminants out of all bodies of water. We can accomplish this by reducing stormwater runoff and road salt usage. The third recommendation is to maintain forests and recharge areas in order to protect the source water. It is best to be at least 60 to 65% forested throughout the watershed. The last recommendation is to increase flood mitigation by means of preserving and expanding buffers in flood susceptible areas.

Afterwards, Karen facilitated a strong community discussion regarding ideas, comments, or recommendations to the Town of Red Hook. Some topics that were discussed included the question if the SKWC tested pharmaceuticals and chemicals in the Saw Kill. Some responses included that we may have tested that in the past, but we are currently not testing it. There was also discussion on the significance of working with and providing resources to community members such as information on how to take care of the land above water.

Lastly, Kaare Christian, member of the Roe Jan Watershed community, gave us a brief update about the Roe Jan, which is a watershed along Route 9. Like our community, they also have a citizen science sampling project. According to recent data, the Roe Jan has great water quality under the EPA standards. How great is that!

To learn more about our meeting, click here for our meeting minutes. To join our next water quality monitoring of the Saw Kill on December 14, get in touch with Lindsey Drew, Don’t forget, our next community meeting is on December 12 at the Elmendorph Inn. Please contact Dxina Mannello,, to get on the email list. Hope to see you there!

Sampling in the snow!

marchsampling3Recent storms made sampling today interesting! Samplers braved some snowy conditions to collect water, record temperature and conductivity, make observations, and take pictures.marchsampling1

These photos were taken at the Bard campus sites, which include the mouth of the Saw Kill and the Bard waste treatment outflow pipe. We were thrilled to have 4 new volunteers with us this morning! marchsampling2

If you are interested in volunteering for our next sampling date on April 13th please let us know! Email Victoria Choy at for more information.


A recap on our end of the year celebration!

Thank you everyone who came out to our December meeting!

For those who couldn’t make it: We went over events from 2017 – our new water lab space at Bard, the Hudson Valley Regional Council Panel in September, the group watershed event at Cornell Cooperative Extension in October, and outreach events like tabling at Hardscrabble day.

Eli Dueker went over the ongoing State of the Saw Kill project. The report asks the questions: How is the watershed? Are there weak spots? What actions can we take? It looks at factors surrounding watershed quality and health, and compares it to historical data. Quality factors consider parameters such as salts/conductivity, turbidity, bacteria, temperature, nitrogen and phosphorus, dissolved oxygen, and chemistry.  Watershed health looks at buffers, floodplains, small wetland and streams, land use, species of conservation concern, invasives, dams and culverts,  and water use.

After two years of monitoring the Saw Kill, we have so much data! So now we can start thinking about what to do with it. This report will help us consider the watershed as a whole and identify areas we want to focus on. There’s a lot of work to be done, but with the community and the resources available to us, we are on our way to creating a meaningful impact.

We are excited for the upcoming year!  We heard great feedback and ideas from community members at the meeting, and look forward to acting on those in the new year.

You can view the meeting minutes here.



(Written by SKWC member Karen Schneller-McDonald and Copied from the Cornell University Blog )

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Eel survey, mouth of the Saw Kill at the Hudson

The need for improved water resource protection is urgent, yet land-use activities increasingly imperil our water supplies. With that in mind, we’re excited to present a three-part blog series, “Watershed Paths to Water Protection,” on citizen stewardship of water resources by Karen Schneller-McDonald, author of Connecting the Drops: A Citizens’ Guide to Protecting Water Resources.

Watersheds connect people in multiple communities through a shared interest in water. Water doesn’t respect municipal boundaries, so watershed protection encourages water users to form partnerships—not only among towns and villages, but also with colleges and universities. Even if you don’t live in a college town, chances are good that the watershed that supplies your drinking water includes a college or university campus.

Bard Water Lab

The Saw Kill Watershed Community(SKWC) in Dutchess County, New York, includes portions of three towns (Red Hook, Milan, Rhinebeck), the village of Red Hook, and the Bard College campus within its 22-square-mile watershed. Interest in the stream’s water quality began with water quality sampling in the late 1970s and with several ecological studies originating at Bard College. The sampling program was revived two years ago, along with development of the Bard Water Lab. These activities led to the formation of a community watershed group, with a leadership team of five individuals from the college and from local communities. Their job is to maintain the partnership’s balance, and the group’s survival. The college provides open access to the lab for interested residents. Once a month, five teams of students and local residents take water samples from fifteen locations on the Saw Kill and bring them to the lab for analysis.



The college brings us the science, and the town provides the setting for applying the science to local water problems. But the partnership is more than water sampling, as it has included a variety of activities, such as putting together an aquarium to showcase glass eels and stream insects for kids at a community event; participating in the 2017 Earth Day March for Science; planting trees; going to a Town Board meeting; presenting research; listening to residents’ concerns on topics ranging from flooding and septic systems to dams, culverts, and road salt; and a session of letter writing to elected officials.

While focusing on the protection of shared water resources, the watershed group benefits students and local residents alike. In addition to learning the science, students apply what they learn in class to real-life work in the community by:

  • Practicing leadership, communications, and social media skills
  • Working with local residents on water protection projects that incorporate science and community values
  • Applying scientific information to help problem-solve local water issues
  • Contributing their energy and ideas to local situations
  • Learning how to run an interesting meeting, provide hospitality (e.g. refreshments), encourage community participation in activities and events
  • Translating science into terms the public can understand, improving the watershed group’s ability to provide information to local officials.
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March for Science, Earth Day 2017

The watershed community is relatively small; local residents have limited volunteer time. By partnering with students and faculty, residents gain:

  • An influx of energetic, enthusiastic volunteers with a shared interest in the group’s growth and vitality
  • Access to science information and exposure to new research
  • Help with action-oriented approaches to water protection (e.g., letter-writing, public comment, tree planting)
  • Use of the Bard Water Lab to evaluate water quality parameters
  • Support for meetings, presentations, website management
  • Institutional continuity and administrative support for watershed group management.

In the fall of 2016 I visited Eli Dueker’s Water class at Bard to discuss water protection issues with students, and was encouraged by the thoughtfulness of their questions and their ability to look beneath the surface to understand water problems. When Robyn Smyth assigned the 2017 Water class the task of reporting on the source of drinking water and the fate of wastewater in their home towns, the students’ presentations took us from New York City and Niagara Falls to a small rural town in Maine, and from San Francisco to Los Angeles. Armed with that knowledge, students progressed to evaluating reports on water quality. This is just a glimpse of the potential for involving students of all ages in water issues in their back yards. That engagement and interest is critical to understanding how watersheds affect each of us personally. It’s key to encouraging future water protectors.

Planting trees with New York State’s Trees for Tribs program

This fall, the watershed group asked the Water class for help with evaluating stream buffers along the Saw Kill. Students reviewed detailed stream maps and assessed buffer width. From their work, the watershed group will compile an inventory of areas along the stream where existing healthy buffers should be protected, and areas where buffer restoration is needed. The students’ interest encouraged me, as they shared dilemmas about how to evaluate buffer “problem” areas on the maps.

The students help the watershed group with information, but what strikes me most is their enthusiasm and interest. That energy is critically important to local volunteers. No citizens’ group has an unlimited supply.

The SKWC is considering other opportunities for teaming with Bard students, including outreach to high school and elementary students via stream biomonitoring and other science programs.


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Water quality sampling

Additional collaboration is available through “Thurst” (The Hudson River Subwatershed & Tributary Research Network), a partnership of colleges and universities that addresses water research of scientific and community significance. Participant colleges representing five watersheds are working together on a pilot project to determine how land use and watershed conditions affect winter salt transport to the Hudson River’s tributaries. The partnership pools resources, provides collaborative learning for students, and will produce useful information for local watershed groups.


Water protection is a long-term commitment. Many watershed groups last only as long as the stamina of their founders; often the task of keeping a group going is left to one or two community leaders who eventually burn out. In other cases, watershed groups affiliated with a college or university have been absorbed into these institutions at the expense of local resident participation. The Red Hook group has set its sights on making this town/village/college partnership a long-term effort that works for everyone. After all, we share the water!

Too often, news headlines about water problems are a recurring “you have to be kidding me” horror story about people in power demonstrating utter disregard for taking care of water resources: Contaminants seeping into rivers, lakes and wetlands. Pollution ruining wells. Flooding. Competition for water supply. Those who work to protect watersheds are susceptible to discouragement and burnout. Students bring new energy to these efforts, refreshing the rest of us and encouraging us to look to the future with optimism. Whether we are eighty or eighteen, we share a common interest in keeping our waters clean and abundant—celebrating the science and the community that enable us to work together.



Karen Schneller-McDonald is the author of Connecting the Drops: A Citizens’ Guide to Protecting Water Resources. A wetland and water resources specialist, she is the president of Hickory Creek Consulting LLC.

Climate Change Salon Series at Montgomery Place

From Bard news and events:

Bard College and the Good Work Institute will copresent a series of discussions, called the Hudson Valley Climate Salon Series, over four Sundays in October and November at Montgomery Place. These sessions will provide a clear and honest assessment of the local risks and challenges that come with changing climate. The Hudson Valley Climate Change Salon Series will be hosted on Sunday October 29, November 5, November 12, and November 19, from 2:30pm to 5:30pm at Bard College: The Montgomery Place Campus, 26 Gardener Way, Red Hook, New York. This series is made possible with support from Dandelion and Hudson Solar. Admission is a ‘pay what you wish’ donation.

From raging wildfires to this year’s unprecedented hurricane season, there is ample evidence that an unstable climate is wreaking havoc around the world. The Climate Salon Series aims to bring the climate discussion home to the Hudson Valley and the Catskills, and to enable participants to gain a deeper understanding of the potential impacts of a changing climate on our communities.

These sessions will also offer tools and tactics for addressing these changes, and the inspiration to help build more connected and resilient local communities. Each Salon will explore a different theme, and will be preceded by related experiential activities.

October 29: The Hudson River
With Jon Bowermeister (filmmaker), Libby Zemaitis (NY D.E.C), and Christian Crouch (Bard College)
Activity: Hudson Canoe and Kayak Trip with Susan Rogers (Bard College)

November 5th: Farming 
With Gidon Eshel (Bard College), Elizabeth Ryan (Stone Ridge Orchards)
Activity: Montgomery Orchard Farm Tour with Talea and Doug Taylor (Montgomery Place Orchards)

November 12: Forests 
With Cathy Collins (Bard College), Gary Lovett (Cary Institute), John Thompson (Catskill Center)
Activity: Tree identification and Climate Change Walk  with Amy Parella (Bard College)

November 19: Lyme and Other Tick-borne Diseases 
With Felicia Keesing (Bard College) and Richard Ostfeld (Cary Institute)
Activity: Tick Identification and Protection Lab With Felicia Keesing (Bard College) and Richard Ostfeld (Cary Institute)

Presenting partners include Chronogram, Climate Citizens Lobby, Hawthorne Valley Farm Association, La Voz, Bard Center for Environmental Policy, Bard Environmental and Urban Studies Program.

For more information, please contact or 845-379-1494.

About Good Work Institute
Founded in mid-2015, the Good Work Institute is a non-profit organization with a mission to educate and connect a network of local community members and actively support their collaborative efforts to regenerate their places. We run fellowship programs, workshops and classes, and are currently developing Greenhouse Kingston, an incubator space for local, regenerative initiatives.  More information at:

About Dandelion
Dandelion is a home geothermal company, with a breakthrough renewable heating and cooling solution. Dandelion offers high-performance equipment and a proprietary, low-cost installation process that allows homeowners to save money by switching from conventional heating fuels to geothermal heating and cooling. To learn more, visit us at:

About Hudson Solar
Hudson Solar is a leader in the design and installation of solar energy systems.
We are a New York–based, family-owned business serving upstate New York. We design and install systems for residential, commercial, agriculture and municipal/non-profit organizations. Hudson Solar is a proud employer of military veterans.

Details and tickets

Check out the event flier here! 

Upcoming Dutchess County Watershed Roundtable

In place of our October meeting we would like to invite you to participate in the Dutchess County Watershed Roundtable on Thursday, November 2nd  as members of the Saw Kill Watershed Community.

What is the event?A meeting of Dutchess County watershed groups aimed at discussing common issues & goals and fostering partnership and collaboration. For the first half of the evening, groups will provide a brief overview of their watershed, current issues it’s facing, ongoing projects, and goals.  The second half of the evening will consist of breakout sessions to further discuss the issues and to collaborate on solutions.

WhenThursday, November 2, 2017 – 6:30 PM to 9:00 PM

Where: Dutchess County Farm & Home Center – 2715 Route 44, Millbrook, NY 12545

To Register: https://dcwatershed


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We look forward to seeing many of you there!